On today’s podcast, at the nerve center of The 213 Collective, Steve Pacek talks about “The Untitled Project #213”, making its Edinburgh Festival Fringe debut. Here is my interview with Steve Pacek.

A past hit at the Philadelphia Fringe Festival! #213 is a silent, sad clown who has learned how to find laughter through the tears. But one day, a passerby's questions take him on a journey to the time before his words went away. This profoundly moving story of learning how to carry on when true love goes missing is told simply and sweetly through music, dance, clowning and just a little bit of theatre magic...

https://tickets.edfringe.com/whats-on/untitled-project-213?day=06-08-2019